Abilene Christian University: Rubel Shelly Instrumental Music

Abilene Christian University (ACU): Rubel Shelly at the Restoration Forum XII - Abilene Christian University (ACU), proposes a Post Denominational rule of fellowship with instrumental music.

Part One You are here.

Don't Miss Number four: 7/7/03 Shelly at ACU: Wine Drinking focus and DIRTY PICTURES of the New Style Worship. Instrument players were always perverted and known as PARASITES.

Part Two Use of Romans 14 to justify music. "Instrumental music, having a glass of wine, the role of women in church leadership. However, a fundamental cultural background of Orphics and Dionysics was singing with instrumental music to "lead them into the presence of the Gods."

Part Three Chapter 15 defines the LAW that one cannot produce SPIRITUAL excitement and still "glorify God with one voice" by speaking "that which is written." That of course was by the Spirit of Christ (1 Pet 1:11). Chapter 15 repudiates Rubel Shelly's distortion of Romans 14.

> C. Leonard Allen and Richard T. Hughes: Discovering our Roots? Calvin: "There is no more marked manifestation of God's wrath than the fact that he permits the decline of his spoken and written Word."

> Royce Money ACU "can't determine the foundation of the church."

> Carrol D. Osburn: Training people to play leading PROPHETIC roles in CHANNELING and FACILITATING change.

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Restoration Forum XII - ACU, Abilene Christian University, TX, November 1-3, 1995

Speech at: Abilene Christian University (ACU):

This lines up with the neo-Pentecostal movement adopted among churches of Christ. The evangelist can no longer find support and money for the mission field because it is consumed locally on plant and staff. The Word got push aside and the people, as in Amos 5; 6 and 8. simply hungered and thirsted for the Word but could not find it. This is also the theme of Isaiah 5 and it defines the natural consequence of the loss of the WORD which is the only free Water (Isaiah 55) which satisfies while musical performance only produces a drug high which wears off leaving the people still hungering and thirsting for the Word. It is the word-only which--all by itself--brings light and life and spirit when it is delivered as commanded to the elders: "teach the word as it has been taught." Peter outlaws "private interpretation which is further expounding."

The head of a university Bible department declares of the worship of "the starry host" in Israel and in Judah: "There's Nothing Wrong." The typical preacher does not grasp that according to Stephen and others the worship of the astrial deities (modern performing STARS) was imposed on Israel at Mount Sinai because this was their prayer in the musical idolatry at Mount Sinai.

Terry Briley at Lipscomb: "The book of Isaiah begins with an analysis of Israel's worship. Outwardly, there's nothing wrong. But their hearts are not engaged and their lives are disconnected from their worship."

What the non-scholararly understand is that:

"Sacrifices, rituals, festivals honoring Yahweh abounded,
but these rites were tangible evidence of lack of knowledge,
........... for they expressed the popular belief that
........... Yahweh could be pleased and pacified by cultic ceremonies.

"The condemnation of cultic rites introduced in Amos 4:4 f. and 5:4 f. is picked up again with new vehemence. It has been argued that Amos was not opposed to cultic ritual per se but condemned the mind set of the people by which responsibility to Yahweh was performed perfunctorily and without relationship to daily life and society.

"If we take Amos' words as they stand, there seems to be little doubt that he condemned the entire religious pattern--feasts, sacrifices, ritual music, offerings, tithes--everything. Gerald LaRue, History of the O.T.

The CAUSE has been the mantra that you cannot grow a church without a masters or Phd of course trained by those declaring that the Bible has been "sifted by philosophy and the Bible writers (who thought they were eye witnesses) own personal agenda, written long afterward from poor memory." When you remove the food and drink then people begin to wander from sea to sea looking for the SPIRITUAL FOOD which they know that they need but the professional peddlers of the Word cannot grasp.

Musical (charismatic) rituals cannot compete with staying at home and watching TV or free or the stealing CDs. The total effeminization of the "worship ritual" and theatrically delivered cut N paste sermonizing and simple-minded, erotic praise songs sends the masculine and rational mind fleeing from the possibility of a terminal contagion.

Perhaps the speaker has forgotten that the new organization destroyed voluntarism. Once, the church thought of itself as the body of Christ (locally) rather than Family of God (universal, ecumenical). The elders were, according to Scripture, the Pastor- Teachers of the flock. The Deacons should have been Teachers also based on the Biblical job description. However, a new breed of SENIOR PASTORS has developed. According to Rubel Shelly the "shepherds" (the new title) shepherd the "ministers become masters" because the ministers are best equipped to lead the congregation. The elders simply evaporate and a new set of male and female "servants" and professional ministry leaders take their place. Thus the threshing oxen has moved into the farmer's house to become surrogate father. The result is that those WHO SCATTERED the flock (for a price) now want to consolidate with more successful groups (for a bigger price) rather than repent and return to the Word.

Research has shown that lectures are the least effective means of communicating. That is why "dialog" is seen as preaching but it takes away the key to knowledge from the one-another teaching role.

In the modern world people do not have to depend upon the pulpit for biblical education. They can find more on the internet in a few hours than a preacher can learn getting his masters from those who may not know much about the Word.

Because people are no longer ignorant they are no longer superstitious. They are not inclined to believe that the preacher is the mediator between God and man. They may know about "worship in spirit" which no one can perform for them or even facilitate. They rapidly grasp that musical worship teams to "lead you into the presence of God" is a mark that they need to leave.

They may have learned about tithing and even read 2 Cor 8 and 9 and fully grasp the money-clergy connection and no longer subscribe: "we gave at home." They no longer believe the "law of giving" which Paul denied. They have read and know that there is no "law of singing" secular writers. They know that Paul said to teach or preach to ONE ANOTHER using the Biblcal resources.

They have heard so much of the "Core Gospel" of seven facts about Jesus that they have decided that they shouldn't have to pay for a CORE any more. They may have had the minimal IQ to grasp that when Paul declared to "know only Christ and Him Crucified" it was just as harsh a sign of judgmentalism as his saying, "I see that you are all speaking in tongues which is singing your own composition out of your own head." They may have grasped that 20 years of preaching "just Jesus" was the ultimate insult to the Corinthians.

Gallup also found out that 80% of the preacher stories are pure fabrication: lies. The Navigators discovered that 85% of the preachers are feminine-oriented while 85% of the "audience" is masculine-oriented. Therefore, to most males, the theatrical performance model leaves them as cold as death. This was the Dionysus model the Jewish clergy tried to pull on Jesus to Triumph Over him to contradict Psalm 41. Jesus wasn't effeminate and therefore did not engage in the choral dance with raised hands clapping and moving as the clergy "piped" over him. That is, consistent with the halal praise, they tried to pollute Him or prostitute Him. Click to see the pictures.

This is consistent with awakenings or revivals or "great leaps forward" in religion: the pastor and women feel disenfrancised and therefore find common ground in converting to what Karen Armstrong in The History of God from "masculine education" to feminine rituals.

Navigators determined that 85% of the "pastors" are feminine-oriented while 85% of the congregation is masculine (rational) based. As with all "priesthoods" the role of the male is diminished.

The churches are failing get a huge dose of REPUDIATION of the "non-instrumental church of Christ" used like a RACA word. Shame at its fullest accrues to the SCRIBES and HYPOCRITES who take pay to SUBVERT the Word of God and the will of the paymaster of the HIRELINGS. Nowhere is the term HYPOCRITE and PHARISEE thrown around against those who refuse to bow over and then sing and dance while the PIPER pipes: In Hebrew the same word means to "play the flute, pollute and prostitute" and indeed that has never changed:

And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted. Matthew 23:12

But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES for ye SHUT UP the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. Matthew 23:13

The Hypocrite, like the Scribes and Pharisees does not describe just a theatrical performance character but a SECT or PROFESSION of religious "god manipulator." He is GREAT SPEAKER, actor or HYPOCRIT and he is a PARASITE because he lives off the work of others.

Hupokrites (g5273) hoop-ok-ree-tace'; from 5271; an ACTOR under an assumed character (STAGE-player), i.e. (fig.) a dissembler ("hypocrite"): - hypocrite.

Wasn't it Rubel Shelly who was looking for a MUSICAL WORSHIP FACILITATOR with a degree in performing arts, music etc., to help lead the worshippers into the presence of God. How can the church grow when the One Mediator is replaced by HYPOCRITES.

Hupokrinomai (g5271) hoop-ok-rin'-om-ahee; mid. from 5259 and 2919; to decide (speak or act) under a false part, i.e. (fig.) DISSEMBLE (pretend): - feign.

All of these men DEVOUR WIDOWS HOUSES and are professionals at long prayers or speeches. They are:

Parasi-tus , i, m., = parasitos, lit. one who eats with another; hence, parasiti Jovis, the gods, Hence, parasitus Phoebi, a PLAYER, ACTOR. one who, by FLATTERY and BUFFOONERY, manages to live at another's expense, a sponger, TOAD-eater, PARASITE

This includes:

Rhetorikos, oratorical, (sc. TECHNE) rhetoric:----of persons, SKILLED in speaking, fit to be an orator.

The techne are the craftsmen who will go back into hell with the mother harlot, her musicians (muses of Abaddon or locusts), and instrumentalists.

The parasites were rhetoricians who ate up widow's houses. They thought that they were the agents of God and were needed to facilitate worship. Nothing could be more arrogance.

The Baptist baptism adopted by many of the change agents is ancient pagan baptism. The command of Christ was that believers who were baptised would be saved. They would go on their way, quite alone at times, rejoicing. Rejoicing is something that happens in the heart and not in a charismatic worship ritual. When you don't cause people to be genuinely converted so that they can receive A holy spirit or A clear conscience which is the ability to read the Word without help as blinders, then they might look for AN EXPERIENCE as demanded by "believer's baptism." Therefore, when people are baptized to get logged into the preachers account book and are not DISCIPLED they receive nothing and die.

As long as people are practicing ceremonial legalism to try to get people to EXPERIENCE CHRIST (whatever that means) because of our rituals then we have the answer to the question. The church was not like the pagan worship rituals but rather people went to the assembly to synagogue or educate one another.

Bringing people to salvation, according to the pre postmodern story of Christ was that evangelists were to go out, preach the gospel to bring people to faith in Christ and not to a charismatic "baptism of the Holy Spirit" which Rubel Shelly and John York credit to the Corinthians. Once they were believers the gospel demanded that they be baptized: this is the fundamental "good news" of Christ. Thereafter, the believers were not bundled into the sheepfold of a hireling but were entrusted to pastor-teachers for education.

Didn't Paul say something about the process of "planting, watering and allowing God to give the increase?"

This invention out of the wineskin vat implies that denominations have ceased to exist. Otherwise post-denominational is just a sillyism. On the contrary, at least 146 distinct Baptist groups have been formed and many people have decided that the "free word" (Isaiah 55) can just as well be dispensed in private homes.

Because of his defining away "doctrine" and leaving only a tiny "core" as the "gospel," the term post denominational is also associated with post modern meaning Post Biblical by a tiny drizzle of men who have become schizeophrenic and believe that what comes out of the sumps of "religious education" is more powerful than the time tested Word of God.

The "core" of the seven-varying-ones is all that this writer is going to permit you to believe and use to criticize other "denominations." It is interesting with this "clearing of the decks" for a one-world-religion goes a one-world-ethic which removes your freedom to critize me for anything. This is the modern meaning of Jubilee: forgive all of the old debts and restore all of the property to the "tribes."

The Latter Rain or Post-Modern teachers believe that defending faith or worship by the Biblical text is the old "modern" or denominational method and is therefore legalism. While they allow just a "core" gospel to still be normative, the terms are associated with the view that the Bible generally is not our guide. In the Restoration Movement nothing could be more jiddying among the clergy than to make fun of Behold the Pattern by Rubel Shelly followed by Joe Beam defining Behold the Pattern of Sectarianism.

Again, The Latter Rain wants you to believe along with the SCHOLARS that denominations shrink when the "fools who love to be fooled" simply follow in the paths of Dr. Shelly and take the "name" off the church building:

Beyond the scope of this review, it is clear that the locusts with scorpion stings in their tails are the symbols used by John to define the rise of the MUSES (turned into locusts) to MARK and drive away the faithful. But, they lock up those marked by Apollyon and the Muses and continue to torture them until Christ comes. It is a fact known even in the garden of Eden that the serpent or MUSICAL ENCHANTER can take away the key to knowledge. It is also known that before MUSIC gives you the sexual feel good it also punishes you so that you create endorphins. This is not spiritual but Satanic.

This explains how psychologically-trained agents of the New World Order sound more like Machiavelli than Jesus. No, Bible-believing churches cannot capitalize on the repudiation of the Word of God and indeed why should they even want to try? Why? Why, we need more "bodies" if we are going to construct an Apollo (Abbadon, Apollyon) Seeker Center to herd in the goats.

Rubel does not grasp that Paul said one thing but preachers "take liberties.

Paul said: "I have decided to KNOW only Christ and Him crucified."

Preachers: "I have decided to PREACH only Christ and Him crucified."

That is the source of the Shelly CORE GOSPEL of seven facts about Jesus.

Paul meant that Jesus Christ as Full Deity laid aside His glory and majesty. He took on the form of a slave and criminal to die for mankind.

The LUCIFER PRINCIPLE of the "harp-playing prostitute" who tried to steal the glory of the WORD of God Who or Which IS God in the garden of Eden. Modern "teams" even adopt Lucifer names. ZOE was the "beast" and "female instructing principle." The Mother Goddess writers depict her as the MOTHER of Jehovah. The only way Jehovah could get out of the abyss was to sing PRAISE HYMNS up to Sophia and Zoe. This flattery got little dumb jehovah promoted up to the seventh heaven just below the SUPREME Deity. From there, jehovah had to continue to organize musical praise teams to WORSHIP Sophia and Zoe who is LUCIFER.

Sophia, Zoe, Eve, Mary etc. continue to be the GUIDING GODDESSES of the musical worship theme. She is the Babylon Harlot brought back to life from her grave on a bed of rotting maggots with her harps and harpists.

Man, on the other hand is "a little lower than the angels" or the lowest created order of beings.

Therefore, Christ laid aside ALL of that glory the LUCIFER TEAM tried to gain throught the Pharisees, Scribes, Hypocrits and Priests with their continuing musical assualt after Christ had died.

Christ appeared as the poorest of MEN through whom He would do battle against Lucifer as the HIGHEST created order. Jesus refused to bow, sing and dance when the LUCIFER people PIPED.

We know from the Greek world that musicians were still perverted parasites.

WE are the preachers who did not remain fired by Jesus as "doctors of the law who took awak the key to knowledge." We are supposed to be helping place STONES in the church which is the TEMPLE of God in Christ. Now in the literal temple, they slaughtered tens of thousands of TYPES of lord Jesus Christ. The "musicians" were "under the King and the commanders of the army" to serve the priests but not God who needed no innocent slain animals. Not in Jerusalem nor in the most vile pagan temples did the Levitical "musicians" whose "service" was hard bondage ever enter into the Holy or Most Holy Place. The Holy Place was a type of the BODY OF CHRIST. Any musicians who entered even into the CARNAL type of the body of Christ would have themselves been slaughtered. Daniel 11 prophesies of the Abomination of Desolation and speaks directly to the POLLUTION of the temple. The word is CHALAL and it is translated as "play the flute, pollute or prostitute."

You CANNOT preach Christ without preaching the BODY of Christ.

Growth comes from feeding people with the milk and meat of the Word and not form the burden Jesus died to removed which was "spiritual anxiety created by religious ceremonial." Perhaps the church of Christ doesn't grow because it has adopted the Methodist "social gospel" and diverted the resources and energy of the church away from being a synagogue or SCHOOL OF THE BIBLE and made it into a pyramidal ministery scheme.

But then the church is the visible manifestation of the body of Christ of which He is the Head. We don't have to provide a "venue for Rock and Roll (the F word) nor Rap" to facilitate or ascend into His presence. Nor do we feel the need to open pulpits to "gay" preachers in their terminal days.

Efforts such as Jubilee and the "conferences" around the country are efforts to become bundling buddies in a denominational form. True "synagogues" are no bigger than the local congregation teaching what it believes to be correct. "Post denominational" is not the same as "non denominational." Post denominational as in The Community Church means "we will gladly take anyone's money."

The church of Christ has no organization larger than the local congregation and therefore has no taint of denominationalism.

A denomination has central headquarters to which you owe money, allegiance and get your preacher assignment. It is a fact that Jubilee-influenced Bible School literature is on the move and the ZOE movement is training "musical mediators." It is amazingly prophetic that the Sophia-Zoe was the feminine godhead dominating the male gods and turning them into effeminate musical worship teams. They called her The Beast, the feminine side of bisexual Lucifer.

Max Lucado preaches about the Cosmic Christmas and muses that Lucifer(Shamash, ZOE) might be redeemed. Rubel Shelly wants to "baptize Santa Clause" and any thing the culture has to offer as long as it can be baptized or "colored Christian." We remember that the Israelites "colored" the Egyptian Triad under the image of Apis the bull calf as "worshiping Yahweh." Yahweh was not impressed and "turned Israel over to worship the starry host" according to Stephen. Nevertheless, Rubel Shelly sees the Israelites sentenced to worship that which they "prayed for": Molech, Chiun, Remphan as Saturn or the S.U.N. God which Shelly wants to "color" as the S.O.N.

However, as proof of where the preachers are, read this sermon or Rubel's sermon against the non-instrumentalists and see that the thorn in the flesh is an antiism supercharged with battery acid. The antism is against those who will not or cannot agree with the new creed of wineskins and feminine-effeminate worship.

"New wine is not poured into old wineskins, or they might break, and aged wine is not poured into a new wineskin, or it might spoil." Gospel of Thomas.

WE speak a lot about restorationists issues because THAT IS WHERE THE SECRET ATTACK is mounted. Rubel Shelly claims that things such as INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC is a restorationist movement. He does not know that the universal BIBLICAL PATTERNISM is that music always told God: "We will not listen to your words." You might look at ACU's patternism of training agents to go out and facilitate the NEW CHANGES. Unfortunately "scholars" write books by quoting "scholars" and the FACTS are all wrong.

"History" is modern: Post-Modern is well past history. It is forging a new path which is identical to that in the most Ancient Near Eastern Texts which define the worship USING women musicians at the towers of Babylon.

The Lord can speak for Himself if we just sit down, shut up and let Him speak from His Words.

It is a fact that the wineskin dogmas in its various forms seeks not to restore first century Christianity but to restore the Cane Ridge model of charismatic dissociation. Again, amazingly, the Cane Ridge and similar revivals was almost identical to devil worship of ancient and modern Mesopotamians.

When the team begins to sing, the people begin to shuffle about, some begin to sway others begin to raise their hands and many begin to clap their voodoo beat to the music you can see that as a SUPERNATURAL SIGN that you have tried to "ascend into the presence of God" and been "cast out into the earth" where you are just eating dust.

See the STAR worshipers invading Madison Church of Christ in Nashville with hand lifting and falling on the floor.

See also the CLAPP CONNECTION.

Wouldn't it be better to stand up and speak the bold word of the Lord in song and sermon (Ephesians 5; Col 3) rather than to sing idle songs and improvize like David? Restoration is always in order:

And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in. Isaiah 58:12

The Shelly/University Axis just hates "the old paths."

When Israel fell back into musical worship in Samaria, Amos shows that musical rituals was the result of a disregard for the Word. In time, the people would hunger and thirst for the Word but could not find it. Therefore, God said

In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old: Am.9:11

And I sought for a man among them, that should make up the hedge, and stand in the gap before me for the land, that I should not destroy it:
........... but I found none. Eze.22:30

Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey. And the Lord saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment. Isaiah 59:15

And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him. Isaiah 59:16

No, doctors of the law, the musical performers do not "lead the worshiper into the presence of God." That means, no, musical artists are NOT THE MEDIATORS REPLACING LORD JESUS CHRIST. And to claim it is a terminal sin. If a Levitical "musician" attempted to lead the priest into the holy place he would be run through with a sword: only one worshiper and God in the "Throne Room" at a time.

For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and a helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloak. Isaiah 59:17

According to their deeds, accordingly he will repay, fury to his adversaries, recompense to his enemies; to the islands he will repay recompense. Isaiah 59:18

So shall they fear the name of the Lord from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the Lord shall lift up a standard against him. Isaiah 59:19

See how the Stand in the Gap was the fulfillment of Psalm 41 in attempt to aid Judas in triumphing over Jesus:

They have overtaken me in a narrow pass (gap) without escape And there is no rest for me in my trial. They sound my censure upon a harp and their murmuring and storming upon a zither." Ps.41:11   Anguish seizes me like the pangs of a woman in travail, (John 16:21) and my heart is troubled within me. I am clothed in blackness and my tongue cleaves to the roof of my mouth. (Vermes, 165f)   Nevertheless, In Victory Jesus says:   I will groan with the zither of lamentation in all grief-stricken mourning and bitter complaint until iniquity and wickedness are consumed and the disease-bringing scourge is no more. Then will I play on the zither of deliverance and harp of joy, on the tabors of prayer and the pipe of praise without end.

The Atonement was one of the key topics which occupied the leaders of the Restoration Movement. However, if you write a book to pass judgment on dead men based on how many times they used the word "atonement" or "cross" then you have established a non-Biblical standard. In fact, I am not sure that the word "atonement" is part of the seven ones.

First, they hear cut N paste sermons: Jesus identified the Devil as a liar because "he speaks on his own." Sermons are "speaking in tongues" because you can spend a lifetime listening and know very little about the "Word as it has been taught."

Second, singing out of one's "own spirit" is also lying because Jesus said so. Songs are twice or thrice removed from the Word as Christ inspired it.

Third, singing out of one's own spirit with "musical content" is speaking in tongues because even preachers think that Joshua stacked the Eben-ezer at the Jordan river.

Perhaps some preacher should explain the term and the principle which is part contained in the Pre-Post-Biblical sermonizing:

Thus saith the Lord, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls.
........... But they said, We will not walk therein. Jer 6:16

Also I set watchmen over you, saying, Hearken to the sound of the trumpet.
........... But they said, We will not hearken. Jer 6:17

The clergy-laded burden is "spiritual anxiety created by religious ritual." Jesus died to relieve that burden and give everyone rest from the professional "teams" inducing anxiety in order to peddle it as a "spiritual feeling" when they are, like Corinth, "doing more harm than good."

When you hear the trumpet blast in your congregation then you know that while your watchmen have fiddled on the watchtowers, the enemy (speaking in tongues) has stolen your sheep (Isaiah 28 quoted by Paul in 1 Cor. 14)

In our experience, the musical people take over (beginning with Myhr in the first musical sectarianism) the people of the Christian church or Disciples have infiltrated and will take "the church of Christ" sign off the place.

Restorationist issues certainly did not include the use of choirs and instrumental music. None of the churches out of which those wanting to be restored had used theatrical performance and clearly understood from men like Luther and Calvin and all of the church Fathers the reasons why.

Therefore, for Dr. Shelly and ACU's information, instrumental music is a Post-Restoration issue.

It is no credit to "christian" scholarship when its leading lights are totally ignorant of the universal repudiation of sense-stimulation (sexual) as a way to induce a feeling which is peddled as "spiritual."

This is such a profound mystery that it is not possible to believe that people are so mind-drained that they do not know the truth.

The sad, but supernaturally predicted, meaning is that people are deliberate mind manipulators and, like those Jesus condemned, a den of vipers and children of their "father." Yes, that statement of freedom is also "Gospel." And Jesus would say: "Come out of them" before you get roped to the millstone.

The Jude-Enoch warning about God coming with ten thousand saints to execute judgment proves that the univeraly belief was that Satan and his agents are behind musical facilitation.

A modern, liberal, scholar notes that: "There is no other tradition about musical instruments" but that they are connected to the demons.

A restorationist issue now denied by Dr. Shelly was the nature and purpose of Baptism held faithfully until Zwingli.

God promised that in contending for the faith in the time of Jesus:

I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. Deut 18:18

And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. Deut 18:19

But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name,

which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. Deut 18:20

And why not? Jesus identified them as the Devil and liars for speaking POST BIBLICAL information. Don't you see why it is so important for the enemies of Christ and His Word to discredit it? Sure, it condemns exactly what they are selling you "at a price too high."

And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits (Old, empty wineskins), and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter (these people used musical devices and said that the gods lived inside of them): should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead? Isaiah 8:19

To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word,
........... it is because there is no light in them. Isaiah 8:20

Every literate Bible student knows that God has a plan to save. That included faith and baptism (Mk 16) and was a question asked at Pentecost: What must I do to be saved? It is either God's plan of salvation or man's plan of salvation. Pseudo-scholars claim to believe (I doubt it) that the church of Christ is unique and that the name came into existence after the musical sectarians sowed discord and divided the church. However, that is gross ignorance. Click for some historical evidence.

See how Clement of Alexander defined the plan of salvation as including baptism. Not even John Smyth, claimed as father of Baptist, believed in Believer's Baptism which is essentially a pagan baptism quite equivalent to the Catholic Sabbath Eucharist as more devotion to Saturn (Satan) that Jesus. See how this was repudiated by all early church of Christ scholars including Clement

See how The Walk to Emmaus is essentially the Roman Catholic Cursillo movement. Roman Catholics inform most modern cults such as the Cross Roads, International Church of Christ, Promise Keepers and other groups spawned by Bob Mumford endorsed by Rubel Shelly. Click for the beginning of several "me too" shepherding urges.

Did we never hear of the Congregationalists in New England. Church autonomy or freedom from Jubilee movements is fundamental gospel.

Most literate people understands that God must surely have a plan to save if there is a plan. Most literate people can define "church" and define the word "autonomy." Perhaps people are smarter than believed and are ready to move on to "eat meat" and quite getting insulted as Paul insulted the Corinthians by "not baptizing many" and by "preaching just Christ and Him crucified."

Just look up The Plan of Salvation on the internet and you will see that EVERYONE uses that term and most will tell you just to believe.

Dr. Shelly and entire crew find it convenient in church bashing to attribute everything they despise to the Restoration Movement. However, we have shown that these "scholars" do not remotely grasp that there is a Biblical command to "follow biblical commands and examples." Nor are they aware (or are they?) that

this has been the method of determining God's authority for the entirety of the Bible and church history.
If I could be God. Or if I just played "parent." How would I tell Carrie to come home early?
If I have a way of communicating, is God so minimiliazed that He cannot communicate?? duHuh?

They hate John Locke because John Locke said the same thing. Hear John Locke define heresy to accuse those who make additions without Biblical authority. That is why they hate John Locke even though not one in a thousand have ever read him or Campbell's Declaration and Address.

None of the unifiers grasps that music is the LUCIFER WEAPON OF CHOICE. It began in heaven as She/he was trying to bleed off worship offered to God. Music AS worship had always been repudiated. The MUSICAL SECTARIANS claimed to a Judge that the music just AIDED the worship and that if music became a PART of worship it would be SINFUL. The Judged gagged at that legalistic dodge but the musical sectarians set the mark: if you use music as worship then you are, according to them, sinning.

The war began when the instrumentalists infiltrated, diverted and stole the church houses of non instrumentalists. They still can't get over the fact that the South could not be subverted by women carpetbaggers after the civil war. The only fratricical (brother killers) wars have been WAGED by instrumentalists. In Rubel's words taking liberties as he does with the Bible "Those being invaded turned hostile and mounted an attack." That is the old guilt clause to rid themselves of the sin.

Rhetoricians, thespians, singers and instrumentalists were all ENCHANTERS identified as the TECHNE of the Babylon Whore team. For instance, we know that we are to SPEAK OR TEACH the Psalms but Scripture lacks any INSTRUMENT PLAYERS or the idea of harmony.

Rhêtor-ikos , ê, on, oratorical, hê rhêtorikê (sc. technê) rhetoric, ...

2. of persons, skilled in speaking, fit to be an orator, Isoc.3.8, Pl.Phdr.260c, 272d, al.; phusei rh. ib.269d, etc.; scholastikos rh. OGI693 (Egypt).

The super speakers, rather than applauded, were the craftsmen. They were the Lamech family whose techne was KORESH.

Technê 1 [tiktô]

I. art, skill, craft in work, cunning of hand, esp. of metal-working, Od.; of a shipwright, Il.; of a soothsayer, Aesch., Soph.

2. art, craft, cunning, in bad sense, doliê t. Od.; in pl. arts, wiles, cunning devices, id=Od., etc.

3. the way, manner or means whereby a thing is gained, without any sense of art or craft, mêdemiêi technêi in no wise, Hdt.; pasêi technêi by all means, Ar.; pantoiêi t. Soph.

Word appears with:

Rhapsôid-ikos , ê, on, of or for a rhapsodist: hê -kê (with and without technê) the rhapsodist's art, Pl.Ion 538b, 540a, al. Adv. -kôs Eust. 3.55 .

Let Socrates convince you NOT to applaude those who depend on their HUMAN ART AND SKILL.

Cithari-zo , a-re, v n., = kitharizô, to play on or strike the cithara, Nep. Epam. 2, 1; Vulg. Apoc. 14, 2..

Same meaning in Greek:

Parasitor . a-ri, v. dep. [id.] , to play the parasite, to sponge: parasitarier, Plaut. Stich. 4, 2, 54 : parasitando pascere ventres suos, id. Pers. 1, 2, 3

Prosana-phusao , play on the flute, Pl.Com.69.6 (leg. proana-).

Hupauleô , play on the flute in accompaniment, melos tisi Alcm. 78 ; penthimon ti D.C.74.5 ; hu. lusiôidois Posidon.4J. ; Pandionidi Luc. Harm.1 : abs., Id.Salt.83.

Kithara the Lat. cithara (whence guitar), a kind of lyre or lute, Hhymn., Hdt., attic: --it was of triangular shape, with seven strings, Eur. Cf. ki^tha^rizô

Latin with similar definitions

Parasi-tor . a-ri, v. dep. [id.] , to play the parasite, to sponge: parasitarier, Plaut. Stich. 4, 2, 54 : parasitando pascere ventres suos, id. Pers. 1, 2, 3 .

Clement writes of the common tribe: why should we assume that we are exempt?

"Appropriate designations of such people as so indulge are flies, weasels, flatterers, gladiators, and the monstrous tribes of parasites-the one class surrendering reason, the other friendship, and the other life, for the gratification of the belly;

crawling on their bellies, beasts in human shape after the image of their father, the voracious beast. People first called the abandoneda 0sw/touj, and so appear to me to indicate their end, understanding them as those who are (a0sw/souj) unsaved, excluding the j. For those that are absorbed in pots, and exquisitely prepared niceties of condiments, are they not plainly abject, earth-born, leading an ephemeral kind of life, as if they were not to live [hereafter]?

But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves. Jude 10

These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; Jude 12

Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever. Jude 13

And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, Jude 14

Enoch defines the musical performers taught by fallen angels as those for whom God will come with ten thousand of his saints. Begin Here.

Apparently in selecting new elders (The Flight of The Wild Geese Paradigm) under the dominant pastor system being actively promoted by university professors with a vested interest, according to Dr. Shelly

the elders must not presume to any authority over the concensus opinion of the congregation.

The dominant pastor shapes the concensus and will allow no one not a "preacher" to mount the pulpit (the most holy place).

Therefore, consistent with denominations, the elders are the pastor's "board of subservient directors."

The role of the elders began in the Bible and was well documented by Clement of Rome to the churches Paul ministered to. Therefore, it is less than straight shooting to try to destroy churches of Christ for inventing the issue of "authority of elders." If people are ignorant of the history then the pastor has been successful in "taking away the keys to knowledge."

Joe Beam claims that churches of Christ who defy the "annointed one's" effort to introduce instruments are ZEALOTS. By making them extremists they become sicarri-assassins. However, Judas the Sicarri was the Satan type whose bag of greed was "for carrying the mouthpieces of wind instruments."

Now, Dr. Shelly makes those who resist instrumental music in worship (an oxymoron) fratricical. That means "brother murderers."

"Music" is not an operative "worship" word in the entire Bible except as:

The device of prostitutes
The exorcizing evil spirits
Creating panic in battle
Creating a great crashing sound during the animal burning times when the "people" were put "outside the camps"

And very often a sign and MARK that says: "We will not listen to your word.

Now, who can resist the bully effort to introduce instruments if everyone is gonna know that you are a zealot and a brothe killer if you raise your voice against US?

Brother bashing always involved the sectarians dividing the church by adding choirs and instruments to compete with Catholics or Anglican-derived churches.

If we didn't introduce instruments then war would not be started by the rise of the "legalists" just resisting being tossed out of the building they have paid for.

Literate Baptists and Presbyterians know that faithful members resisted instrumental manipulation along with churches of Christ and many (the majority) of religious people who do not attempt to worship god with a machine.

I don't know of a fratricidal war begun by the "laity" or even by the elders who were, in Biblical jargon, the only pastor-teachers in the local flock.

If people would not approve (yea, demand) of instrumental music by making it an opinion then the musical wing would never have become sectarian by adding music when a straight-line back to the Tower of Babylon proves that

not attempting to move the worshipers into the presence of God was the "truth held en toto"

This consensus view was sected-out by ursurping "pastors" such as Pendleton who bragged that he was the first sectarian in the new Restoration Movement. That is, he ignored the total rejection of music by post-biblical scholarship (even the Catholic Encyclopedia) and imposed an organ over the forceful removal of the organ (melodian) by an elder.

The first lawsuit of the Christian church stealing church property was held in Tennessee. The leaders of the evangelistic music and institution adders freely confessed:

> That if instruments are a part of the worship then adding instruments is sinful.

> However, they claimed with a straight face, the instrument is not a part of the worship but only an aid to worship.

> The Judge ruled that it was nonsense that the instrument would not be part of the worship.

> Therefore, the musical sectarians confessed and the Judge agreed that adding instruments (spite of hell and church division) was a sin.

Dr. Rubel Shelly may think that to "defend" against an "attack" (re: Second Incarnation) is fratricidal but this may just be psychological intimidation?

By what stretch of the imagination does anyone believe that they can achieve unity in a forum when those who attend have already become united in principle against the clear Biblical and historical evidence which is opposed to trying to worship a Spirit God with the "works of human hands" and truly ceremonial legalism of musical ritual performance?

> There is no evidence that spiritual worship, even among the Jews, was ever attempted by the pure-legalism of using a machine to assualt the vaults of heaven.

> God excluded the people's congregation when the "noise" signaled the beginning and ending of animal sacrifices.

> The synagogue had no praise service.

> The New Testament church worship is not remotely related to "praise." People assembled but they "did" synagoguing.

> The historical church did not use self-composed (carnal) songs or instruments.

> The first music was a Seeker-System to pay for cathedrals even as the official Catholic view as late as 1913 repudiated instrumental worship for the mass. The Sistine chapel excluded instruments and "A Cappella" is not "A Biblical" but was choirs to entertain the pope who could not participate with instrumental music.

This is so far beyond rational that one wonders where to begin in teaching the first steps: "A, B, C" or "little hand on 12 and big hand on 1."

Why would discussing "who is on first" or discussing the ancient history of instrumental idolatry be compared to "speaking in tongues?"

The Classical and post apostolic church "fathers" always connect instrumental musical worship to speaking in tongues as did Paul in First Corinthians 13 and 14.

While the Bible associates using instruments with speaking in tongues, Dr. Shelly equates discussing why we don't use instruments to speaking in tongues.

So much for "among the scholars" who applaud and promote such error.

The preacher needs to quit confusing people if he cannot begin at the garden of Eden or the "first stop off the Ark" in downtown Babylon and show that the not-so-hidden message is that Satan used instruments to mind-alter people so that they did not worship God but worshiped the mixed-sex choirs, the new wine and the magical, supernatural sounds out of instruments which proved that the "gods" were in their presence or that they had "been moved into the presence of the gods." This message is inherent in the names of Lamech's Children: Lamech received his second incarnation among the Babylonians as Ea, the patron god of music, whom Inanna (Ishtar) got drunk and stole the gift of instrumental music, the gift of the eldership and the gift of licking the phallus.

Have we also missed that in our quest for "unity in diversity?" Do Universities not feel it helpful to teach its 'preacher' students that singing self-composed songs "out of their own spirit" was speaking in tongues?

Paul in 1 Cor 13 uses musical terms: the sounding gong was the hi-tek, Greek equivalent of the old wineskin or familiar spirit of the witch of Endor or the nebel (harp) used by the nabal (vile one). Enchanting and Satan's training of Jubal (Genun) to seduce the people with mixed-sex choirs, wine and instrumental music is the theme of the book of Enoch quoted by Jude.

The guilt principle means that if you preach and defend the Biblical and historical message against instrumental music, or any music calculated to lead people somewhere rather than teach them the Word of Christ or spirit, you are divisive and sectarian.

There were those saying that they could "not abide the election of a Republican President." In which event they would destroy the Union. "And then, you say, the great crime of having destroyed it will be upon us! That is cool. A highwayman holds a pistol to my ear, and mutters through his teeth, "Stand and deliver, or I shall kill you, and then you will be a murderer." Abraham Lincoln, Frost, Vol. 1, p. 274

Shouldn't any preacher know that it was Paul who compared music and singing "praise songs" out of their own spirit to unsure military commands, trying to speak to God when He was trying to speak to the group (1 Cor 14:2), just speaking to the air Goddess (14:9), and speaking in tongues? His carnal weapons and lifeless instruments were denounced as charismatic tools to attract the "seekers."

Bruner, in The Holy Spirit clearly knows that most church music is "low level glossolalia." And so all of the Classical writers understood it as the soothsayer's method to make an intimate connection with the goddess (had to pay for it, too.)

Edified does not mean, as Huxley noted, spiritual masturbation by the theatrical group. Or, heavens help us, "Dancing on the rim." Edified means to build up through teaching the Word. Spiritual means "mental" and if the people hear book reviews or off-the-web sermonettes then don't blame me.

I have read those books, sermons and newsletters: sounds like "Turkey Soup for the Sick." I challenge you to take a 1 X 2 card to the next "worship" and see what you can collect about coherent Bible knowledge in songs plus sermons which, I swear to you, are really about the speakers and singers.

Edified is not exhilarated: edified is instructed, the resource of the songs is to be "the words of Christ" or "the Spirit" which Jesus said was in His Words (John 6:63). The method was "speaking one to another" and not worshiping the self-worshipping team usurping your Christ-purchased role.

The result was that the "singing and melody was to be in the heart." This is because external "melody" means to "grind you into powder" and is simi