A Pixel in a Greater Picture: The Emerging Church of Christ: CRITIQUED Kenneth Sublett, Piney.com, Hohenwald, Tennessee
Some leading
misleaders about MUSIC in worship. Isaiah 25, Isa 25: Isaiah Chapter 25: The branch of the terrible one is a song to be accompanied with instrumental music.
Dwaine E.
Dunning The non-instrumental BRANCH must be
cut OFF.
God always hides
a MARK. There are several parts of this paper. A. Ralph Johnson in Instrumental Music, Sacred or
Sinful. 1. Tom Burgess in Documents on Instrumental Music reviewed. Psallo and Instrumental Music: Proofs do not prove anything but the
"music-homosexuality" connection. See more on Strabo's definition of the worship of Apollo or
Abaddon or Apollyon: his MUSES are the locusts or musical performers in
the book of revelation. 2. Tom Burgess More Review of Plutarch: if Psallo authorizes "church
music" it authorizes a homosexual gathering. 3. Tom Burgess on Moralia confirms the "Music-Heresy-Perversion" connection
which has no historical exception. 10/20/04 4. Tom Burgess on John Chrysostom: are the anti-instrumentalists ignorant
rurals? 10/21/04 What about Paul and Martin Luther and John Calvin
and Zwingli and--everyone who believed the Bible as authority.
5. M. C. Kurfees and G. C. Brewer on Psallo and Instrumental Music in worship. Thayer
and Grimm reviewed by Tom Burgess. Charles Daily
Northwest College of the Bible Part One
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Part One A
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THRESKIA or CHARISMATIC Fred Peatross: The Church as
Spectacle The emerging church sounds strangely like that at the
towers of Babylon, neo-paganism and even witchcraft. There is not requirement to
give to or associate with or "become friends with sinners." God is
against the Seeker Centers:
Give to the
godly
man, but
do not help the
sinner. Ecclu 12: 4. lest by means of it
he subdue
you; Who will pity a snake
charmer (flute
player) bitten by a
serpent, or any who go
near wild beasts? Ecclu
12:13. They will surely show
contempt and pour out God's judgment against your foolishness by
clapping their hands! When you use the sinners
means to attract sinners be warned that the sinners will grasp you by
your heels and defeat you because you were not under the blood of
Jesus: An enemy will speak sweetly with his lips, but in his mind
he will plan to throw you into a pit; an enemy will weep with his
eyes, but if he finds an
opportunity his thirst for blood will be insatiable. Ecclu 12: 16. Clapping never caused a
probem. Rather, music, dancing and clapping (buffonery) was the MARK
of God's wrath being poured out. Fred's Book is an honest
presentation of what the emerging church of Christ has become in some
areas. Fred e-mailed me a copy of this chapter and I have reviewed it
based on how hand clapping is seen in the Bible and history and it
does not reflect on Fred's vision of a new form of worship. The book
is well written, concise and defines the rise of a new form of
"worship" to replace the church as synagogue or school. I bought it and it is very
precise and will not offend those who see themselves as
charismatic. A Pixel in a Greater Picture by Fred Peatross, Edward
W. Fudge We have looked at the Emerging
Church which must take seriously the fleshly use of images, aound and
vizualization. This is proposed as Worship as a Spectacle. We will
comment on some of chapter 32. In
addition, we will look at the Pharisees charge that Jesus was a glutton and a wine
drinker. We respectufully submit that
this was what the Jews accused Jesus of but Jesus very pictorially
called them liars. However, we understand that this is a popular way
of interpreting Jesus as "all things to all people." We believe that
it is wrong. We try not to be too judgmental
with Post
Moderns because their
Bible is not our Bible and consequently John Locke would say that
their religion is not our religion. Therefore, their church of Christ
is not our church of Christ. Ours emerged
in the first century and has always been identifed as belonging ot
Christ. Short version Review:
Clapping hands is a way
to show contempt for the looser. It is not possible to "give heed" or
Worship God in the spirit while giving heed to our carnal
senses. Lifting "holy" hands is always
a preamble to "giving heed" to the word, commandments or oracle of
God. One lifts the hands, palm up, as if reading the Word written on
the palm. David "lifts my hands to your commandment." The man is
qualified to hear the Spirit or Mind of Christ by having holy hands
to lift up. To encourage people with "unholy hands" to lift them to
the musical performers is anti-scriptural. The woman is qualified by her
dress and spiritual disposition to pray. Both male and female offer
their own prayers: no one can "lead" another in personal
prayers. The priestly duty which
required "holy hands" was teaching: the woman was not part of this
public teaching. The instructions to Timothy was to "give attendance
to the public reading of the word, to exhortation to
doctrine." Both male and female meditated
on this reading as necessary to the learning (as opposed to just
hearing) the message. That is, they "sang and made melody in the
heart" as IN SPIRIT worship. We believe that Fred gives
authority (ex cathedra) for "acts of worship" which are intimately
connected with idolatry and charismatic religion and the introduction
of which is known before hand will "sow discord among the brethren."
If the issue is just optional then someone is making a lot of effort
to insist that the new "lawful" church of Christ which has moved out
of the "ignorance" of the last century is free to sow discord any way
it wishes. Part of the problem is seeing
church as "worship center" to enact rituals which have magical
transforming power. However, the church Jesus died for was synagogue
or school of the Bible. Singing and other "playful" instincts was
part of the secular entertainment. We all just need to relax,
plant and sow and let God give the increase. Fred Peatross: All churches want to
transform people. The
challenge is that the "transformational journey" of the Christendom era
that ended in the 20th century no longer works for 21st
century people. If evangelicals are interested in reaching the largest segment of
our population they're going to have to carefully consider what kinds
of evangelistic approaches best work in a postmodern world. In this groundbreaking book Peatross
offers practical advice to Christians who have been trained to
do ministry in a world
that no longer exist. The following is a chapter in a
book titled "A Pixel in a Greater Picture: The Emerging Church of
Christ" by Fred
Peatross; foreword by Edward Fudge. Fred: do you still use the SAME
BIBLE? Shelly gives you the right to NARRATE it. Do you still OWE for
your OLD house? Do your creditors still DEMAND that you pay. Do the
kids use the same MATHEMATICS, CHEMISTRY, PHYSICS? Do you still parse
sentences and understand documents the same way? Have you thrown away
your old car, your church "house" and on and on? Of course not: the
same method of GOING and PREACHING is the ONLY way to
evangelize. Now, if you are speaking of
doing "church" in the CIRCE or holy whore way the METHODS she used
(she was burried close to Patmos) was INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC and
ENCHANTMENTS or SONGS administered with "drugs" and she was therefore
a sorceress. Music has always been a key INSTRUMENT OF
SORCERY. First, churches of Christ
are not part of the Evangelical movement. Christ is interested in only one form of
transformation: "go preach, baptize, teach." Only a tiny handfull
will be interested in the simple, totally verbal account of God in
the flesh. Only those who are worthy of the kingdom will hear. If you
are Seeking the masses you are seeking the goats and not the sheep.
The kingdom is a mystery: it is within the human mind or spirit. It
has no external rituals to make the Words of Christ more
powerful. I don't want to do what only
God can do! Is that pre-post-modern or what? Yes, the church's
preachers totally believe that by getting a Phd they have the
supernatural power to construct a "sermon" ignorant of the Spirit
Word which has power to "transform people." Part of this clan teaches
that the musicians can help "lead the worshiper into the presence of
God." That means, and is claimed, that "musicians are mediators
between man and God." Yea, even "the platform upon which God
lands." This is not Post Modern but
Post Biblical and Post rational. Yet, it is pre-Biblical beginning at
the Towers of Babylon. What utter nonesense: when the
twin towers were attacked, people didn't turn to charismatic worship
rituals (totally legalistic). Rather, the Bible has had a huge
increase in sales. People have nothing from their "churchy culture"
of preachers denying that for which they get paid upon which to build
a spiritual foundation. Therefore, they sit down and read trying to
find the Water of the Word for which they have hungered and thirsted
to death because the clergy supplies the "wine, women and song" which
destroyed Israel (Amos 5, 6, 8) and Judah (Isaiah 5). The church of Christ is
defined by the
Bible BEFORE the
latter day
apostles decided that
we had moved through some time warp which perhaps keeps bodies from falling from tall
buildings (God's law) or people from "reaping exactly what they sow."
If we sow to the flesh we will reap corruption. That is not the
church of Christ which, ideally, is not pagan worship center but
School of Christ. The Post Modern, sense-sucked,
do not believe what they are saying: they get their worship ritual
and women's worship team right off the Towers of Babel whose temple
(church) at the top was where the gods landed. And, you could be played up and down the steps to
"meet the gods ascending and descending." The collection plate was at
the top and the slave labor LEGALISTICALLY SERVED the gods down
below. Hand clapping and hand waving
is totally documented in the Classics and church Fathers so there is
nothing Post Modern or "emerging" about falling into the new winskin
vat of pagan, prostitute religion. This article defines the Biblical "church" and a
faitlful church of Christ Nothing has changed in the
history of the world in this latter day "death struggle of an
unlawful priesthood riding on the backs of widows and orphans" to
justify the switch to the Mountain-Grown, snake-handling mentality,
Voodoo empowered new style of praise music seeking to reach a climax with God or "making the spirit come." It can happen because music
massages every nerve
ending in the body and
even shakes the brain in its skull. When Israel "rose up to play"
here is the picture: see how God would destroy the musical,
hand clappers in
Egypt who were
having VISIONARY ORGASMS. The Post-Modern "New Style
Worship" is identified in every age as pagan idolatry used by the
deviant to sell their abnormality as proof that the god's were
speaking through them: they would tell you the secret for a price.
Jesus would define the
Pharisees as Post Modern because they ignored the Word of God, in
order to enforce their own word and in order to become theatrical
performers and steal the houses of widows. They, too, were
excluded by Jesus from ever hearing the Spiritual message of
redemption. To their eternal credit, the
Pharisees never turned to mixed-sex choirs and instrumental music as
weapons against the people and tools of the tithe collectors!
It was the TEMPLE or "church
house evangelists" who still BURNED animals using the LEVITICAL MUSIC
as a CARNAL type of murdering Lord Jesus Christ. Music was for animal burning
times and every, even non-literate kid knew that when Christ stops
the animal sacrifices, the temple servants stop the loud noise which
is not called "music." If we start the music again
using the authority of the temple then we repudiate Christ and His
words and Paul in Hebrews 6 calls this the unforgivable sin.
Post Modern: Right off the
Ark A new word or term pops up and
we can guarantee that it will get to the pulpit faster than the book
of Isaiah. "Post Modern" is what Arlie Hoover calls: "Chronological
Snobbery." I am constantly astounded that the world built such
highly-crafted airplanes BEFORE I was born. Jesus knew it when He warned
the Jewish Clergy: They are like
unto children sitting in the marketplace, and calling one to another,
and saying, We have piped unto you, and ye have not danced; we have
mourned to you, and ye have not wept. Luke 7:32 Everyone tends to believe that
"truth began with me." The charismatics at Corinth thought so but
Paul asked: Or did the word
of God come originally from you? Or was it you only that it reached?
1 Cor 14:36 The Babylonian tablets tell the
story of the female-effeminate worship leaders whose primary weapons
were chants (enchanting) and musical instrument. Just off the
Ark: "But when all these
things were done, men
turned again to impiety;
and on this account a law
was given by God to instruct them in the manner of living.
But in process of
time, the worship of God and righteousness were corrupted by the
unbelieving and the wicked,
as we shall show more fully by and by. Moreover, perverse and erratic
religions were introduced, to which the greater part of men gave
themselves up, by occasion of
holidays and solemnities, instituting drinkings and banquets, following pipes, and flutes,
and harps,
and diverse kinds of musical instruments, and indulging themselves in all kinds of
drunkenness and luxury. "Hence every kind of error took
rise; hence they invented groves and altars, fillets and victims, and
after drunkenness they were agitated as if with mad emotions. By this means power
was given to the demons
to enter into minds of
this sort, so that they
seemed to lead insane
dances and to
rave like
Bacchanalians; hence
were invented the gnashing of teeth, and bellowing from the depth of
their bowels; hence a terrible countenance and a fierce aspect in
men, so that he whom drunkenness had subverted and a demon had
instigated, was believed by the deceived and the erring
to be filled with the
Deity. The full account of the rise of
Idolatry. Clement repeats the story
told in a dozen ancient accounts such as the Book of Enoch, The book of Jubilees and the Books of Adam and Eve. At the minimum, these documents record the views of
the Jews at the time. Reviewing the
chapter: > First, let's disable your rational mind by telling a
"death bed story." We all have strong feelings about the safety of
our children. However, when an accident occurs the emotion is the
RESULT of
reality. > You can experience anxiety: waiting up for the late
teenager. Just borrowing trouble. This is ARTIFICIALLY CREATED
ANXIETY and it is irrational and unhealthy. Sometimes we have to get
pills in order to survive the "worship music" in order to find the
lost God Who shows up only at the building and in response to our
awakening or arousal ceremonies. See how singing arousal Psalms was put
down. > Another form is "Spiritual anxiety created by religious
ritual." That was the burden the performing clergy laded on the backs
of the people used like pack animals. However, a fundamental part of
the GOSPEL is that Jesus died to get the free-loaders and anxiety
creators off our backs. He came to
give us REST. > The mandate Jesus gave the "preachers" was to "go,
preach, baptize, teach" and go on to the next "threshing field." The
mandate for the church was to "make known the manifold wisdom of
God." The church has no role in
transforming people with the
works of human hands. All we are commanded to do is plant and water and
leave the "transforming" to God. We are not God and we cannot put
them through a transformational
journey any more than men can be put
through a "masculine journey" without tainting our sanity.
Worship and Emotions Fred Peatross:
Late one night, my wife
was awakened by a phone call. A hospital emergency room nurse told
her that our daughter had been injured in an automobile accident. She
said that we should come to the hospital at once. I have to admit
that I was scared. My frustration continued to build during the
frenzied drive to the hospital. As we waited to consult with the
emergency room doctor about the extent of the injuries, I began to
notice emotions that I had never felt in the past. Eventually, the
doctor came and told us that our daughter had broken three dorsal
vertebrae in her spine. Waves of emotional reactions
were interspersed with periods of numbness. I felt out of control,
yet I maintained my composure by taking care of the immediate needs I
recognized. I talked with the radiologist and I called
relatives. We can right now relive the
experience: every parent has this burden as long as they are alive.
These are real bone crushing, anxiety-creating events. However, YOU
MUST NOT LADE more burden on people's backs. Jesus died to remove the
burden which was "spiritual anxiety created by religious ritual."
Don't deny Jesus by crucifying Him after trying to MELT HIS HEART
with what was always WARRIOR'S MUSIC. Music is one of the most powerful drugs for
creating "spiritual anxiety." But, wait just a second or two and
endorphins come to our rescue to heal
the pain from twitching, plucking,
twanging,
abrading and give us a little left over to be peddled as "spiritual
worship." For a growing number of people
constantly under artificially created anxiety, the same drum beat with "church music" creates exactly the same life-shattering feeling the
father feels when he believes that his beloved daughter is
dangerously ill. Exactly. You cannot tell the difference. The hand
clapping, hand waving, singing very complex praise (erotic)
songs is deliberately
and with a high hand "grinding to bits" (basis of melody) many of the
people, making them want to run past the preacher without being able
to tell you what he preached about. The most ancient pagan
"professional religionists" knew that and medical science and
musicologists know it: that is why it works for those with more
"anxiety reserve." Nevertheless, people are deliberately harassing
the people of God because they pretend to know more than the Bible
which has withstood their hammering for 2,000 years and will not even
be dented by them. Churches of Christ will
survive and when the pendulum swings back--pendulums always
swing--their children will rise up and call them cursed.
Fred Peatross: From early childhood, males are taught that men
should protect their families. Fathers are responsible for fulfilling
their wife's and children's physical, financial, and emotional needs.
They are to be in control, to be strong (never scared), and capable
of fixing all things. By adulthood, males are catapulted into
stereotypical roles. Often they feel torn while trying to fulfill the
roles expected of them. Showing emotions is labeled as weak or pitiful.
They are expected to be
strong under adverse circumstances, even when there's an automobile
accident involving a daughter they love. Football or Basketball or
professional wrestling is a great place to let go. Even church
picnics work. However, God reserved one tiny reservation called
EKKLESIA or ASSEMBLY (never church) where He as pure or holy Spirit
meets us in our spirit or mind: He doesn't meet us on the dance
floor. That synagogue or QAHAL as the "church in the wilderness" was
for INSTRUCTION and God outlawed the Levitical warriors "making a
joyful noise before the Lord." Hand clapping
is recognized in the
Bible as a way to show contempt for utter losers. It is also a way to
show contempt for Christ when He has come as promised to Teach us
through His Words. It is also wa way to introduce the greatest amount
of "spiritual anxiety." Waiting for news about our children is not
the best time for show people to do a hand clapping routine.
Rather than Corinth being a
"pattern" of unity in diversity, Paul clearly said: In the following
directives I have no praise for you, for your meetings do more harm
than good (worthless). 1 Cor 11:17 Too bad about you, Fred, I get
lots of hugs and even tears. If we are traumatized it is from
unlawful preachers substituting "teaching the Word as it has been
taught" with "sermonizing" which they believe has extra spiritual
punch power simply by the way they have composed and delivered it.
Heard one billed as having rengerating power because he had trained
with Zig Ziglar! Fred Peatross: It's easy to ignore and eventually deny your feelings
with the consuming responsibilities and demands of a busy life. But
being the analytical
type that I am (is this
a male thing?), I've often wondered if this is the reason I am
hesitant to show and express my feelings. If you are the masculine,
analytical type you really should be afraid of anyone trying to
seduce you into connecting a phsyical act of the body with spiritual worship. Once you make the brain snapse connection between
"feelings" and being "spiritual" it is likely that you will abandon
the Words of Christ in favor of what "feels good to me." If you "show emotion" which has
been generated by the jungle beat then your body is just being a
robot: "dancing" when someone else "pipes." One can "feel" without
expressing that feeling in public worship. For instance, what if I
feel utter disgust for the Biblical illiteracy in sermon and class?
Should I "let go and let God" and just vomit (parallel to clapping) up all over the place, cry, pull my
hair and tell the teacher how silly he makes himself look pretending
to be THE teacher? Fred
Peatross: Feelings and
Worship If worship is a response of the whole person to God, then we cannot ignore emotions.
When we
worship we think about
Christ and contemplate His character. We're
invited to express
our brokenness, gratitude, awe, fear, joy, and humility before God. Worship calls forth a
language of the
heart. It's communion with God, and our response should produce an outflow of feelings. That is a very big
If. In the Law- sense,
worship was "being under
bondage," falling flat
on your face and daring not look up until the trumpets give the all
clear. I wonder about a
religious ritual for "expressing our humility." Someone has said
that: "Drama works because everyone knows that it isn't really
true." SPIRITUAL worship
occurs ONLY in the human SPIRIT (mind) as it "crucifies" the
flesh. One can see the printed WORD or hear the read WORD.
If we "give heed to it" that is SPIRITUAL worship.
THEREFORE, if the
whole person is involved we are still under LAW and not
under GRACE. And indeed perhaps we can never be. Freedom from law is
not for everyone. The law was related to the flesh and could
not penetrate to the spirit. Musical rituals were rituals of
the flesh. However, there is a
"species" of humanity which can find God in the mind or
spirit: that is the only place God will look for our
worship.
The test of sonship is
that the Son speaks only what He hears from the Father. The
test of a spiritual mind is determined by what we are
concerned with.
Charismatic rituals
such as singing, clapping, raising hands are shows of
contempt for a Spirit God because they attempt to find Him
in their own human appetites. God lives in the Most Holy
place where only one worship can go unassisted to Meet Him.
The Mind is the most holy place of the human spirit; if we
attempt to worship God with our hands or feet we will never
make contact with a Holy Spirit. There is no peace for
the carnal mind; it is always looking for a bigger "fix" to
give them the assurance which drained away with the musical
drug high.
When you see it you
should know that this is not just some programmed legalistic
ritual in the "nulling out of all truth and certainty" as we
enter the "Post Modern" era. Rather, the carnal mind really
has no choice. It has carefully defined, using the Shelly
Sifter and secular philosophy, its way into a dead end
which, in all of the musical traps of history, it will not
and can not recover. When you cut
yourself off from the Vine you are a withering branch and
the drier you get the more you crackle: Here is the
universal Post-Biblical or Post Christian
test:
The PLACE of
Worship Never Changes So, here is what we do: we
declare God to be dead and His Word so fragmented that all we can do
is try to build our own new version "which works." However, Paul would say that
you are still trying to force your body which never got crucified
with Christ to rise like dry bones. And you are doomed to failure and
you will lead the blind with you. But, there is a solution. We
cannot DO worship for others or LEAD them into worship or, God
forgive us, "lead them into the presence of God." Jesus died to give
you a solution and you have to die to learn it. That means the
"praise teams" sits down as if it had been caught in the Most Holy
Place and had tried to open the Ark. That means the "sermonizing"
follows the direct command to "give attention to the reading" of the
Word and explaining only what you know that others do not alredy
know. Dead men's hands do not keep on
clapping and raising them into the face of a Holy God. Why does this
insult Him? First, clapping has always been a show of contempt for
the looser. Second, if you incourage people to raise "unholy" hands
without the Word of God written on the palms then you are leading
them into destruction. GOD CREATED OUR MIND OR
SPIRIT AS THE MOST HOLY PLACE OF HUMANITY AND PURGED IT TO MAKE IT
FIT FOR HIS HABITATION. Jesus said that worship is
"In
Spirit" and that does
not mean "charismatically" but it means "in the human spirit" as the
PLACE to replace the temples as
PLACES. That is the meaning of GRACE. Here are
a couple of passages to show that "in spirit" does not mean "in the
hands" but in the spirit. That is why Jesus never held a PUBLIC
prayer or hand clapping ceremony. I
remembered God, and was troubled: I complained, and my
spirit was
overwhelmed. Selah. Ps.77:3 I call (Mention, burn incense) to remembrance my
song (h5058) in the night: I commune with mine own heart: For I verily, as
absent in
body, but present
in
spirit, have judged
already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done
this deed, 1 Cor 5:3 There is difference also
between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman careth for the
things of the Lord, that she may be holy both
in body and in spirit: but she that is married careth for the things of
the world, how she may please her husband. 1 Co.7:34 IN SPIRIT is the only PLACE where God looks for our worship. The fact that we
are willing to "crucify the flesh" and meet Him there is the greatest
honor or worship we can give to Him. Jesus said that worship is not "in body" when He defined
it as "in
spirit." There is a law of
silence. For we are the
circumcision, But you, beloved,
building
yourselves up on
your most holy faith, praying
in the Holy Spirit, Jude 20NKJV I was in the Spirit on the Lords day, and heard behind me a
great voice, as
of a trumpet,
Re.1:10 Fred wants you to be OUT OF THE
SPIRIT. Paul and in all of the classics John was probably BY HIMSELF
and THINKING ON THESE THINGS. God speaksto us in the Most Holy Place
in darkness and silence. No light shows You cannot possibly get the
arms and glands and feet involved in worshiping God with Body Worship
and still worship "in spirit" or in the mind. That is called
"worshiping God with the works of human hands." You cannot possibly
worship in TRUTH if the message comes OUT of your own spirit. This is
what Paul accused the Corinthians of doing and therefore their
singing songs out of their own "spirit" meant that they were just
"speaking into the air." However, in a spiritual sense,
worship is most often bowing
to God by "giving
heed" to His Words and
thoughts. It is not possible to "praise God" by chanting "Praise
God." We praise God by honoring what He has reveale of His Mind to
our mind or spirit. If we met Albert
Einstein we would not honor him by having a team of 'sister singer'
perform some kind of musical ritual for him: he would kill you.
Rather, we worship or "give attention" to Albert Einstein by asking
him if he can please explain relativity without mathematics.
In worship, we are not invited
[in my Bible] to express
our brokeness or
anything else as self-expression: if we speak or open our mouth we are to speak as
the Oracle of God. Whatever we choose to do to express our sense of
awe we DARE NOT make it into a ritual and impose it on others. This is the "ME" generation which evidently did not die at Twin
Towers. This is "let's discuss my belly button syndrome."
Church is
synagogue or
school and we come
there to let Jesus express His will while we shut up and
listen. Someone said "our churches are
not friendly." Next week, all over the country, preachers have
introduced a "let's be
friendly act of worship for 15 seconds." Is that legalistic, stupid or what? But, for those of us still
somewhat Bible-dependant, Paul said: I beseech you
therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies
a living
sacrifice, holy,
acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable (spiritual) service. Rom 12:1 That does not mean that our
body is to enthuse
and get enraptured (raped) or help old ladies across the street. When
we "sacrifice" something we burn it up on the altar. This word means "the act of the
victim" in crucifying
the flesh. If I am not
"crucified with Christ" I cannot even get close to the Throne of
Grace with my spirit. I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth
in me: and the life which I now live in the
flesh I live by the faith
of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. Gal 2:20 Christ as Holy Spirit which in
1 Cor. 2 is the MIND OF CHRIST dwells in our mind or spirit.
Therefore, if we want to GIVE HEED as the almost unique meaning of
"worship" to Paul we will be IN OUR SPIRIT which is the THRONE OF
GRACE where we meet God ONE AT A TIME. Now, if you can figure out how
to Get Christ singing, dancing and clapping His hands with you as an
act of worship, you are safe from terminal sin. However, the clergy
piped hoping that John and Jesus would sing and dance and clap in the
Dionysus style and He refused. Conclusion: you are implicating
Jesus as the Head of the body in an effeminate form of "body
worship." And He will not participate so you "Dare NOT dance with
God" or you will wind up in the arms of the Devil. Therefore we are
buried with him by baptism into death: that
like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the
Father, even so we also should walk in
newness of
life. Ro.6:4
If you hands still want to wave
and clap and your feed dance and your body sway you may need to go
back for another try at "putting the body to death" as a living
sacrifice offered up. In all of the passages falsely
identified as "musical," the way for radically different but musicially-dependant Orphics and Dionysics in
Romans 14 to meet in love would be to "sacrifice" their old MUSICAL TRADITIONALISM which was always pagan and "speak that which is
written" (the Spirit of Christ), the Word of Christ (Col 3) or Spirit
(Eph 5). The external function is not "singing" or making music but
teaching or
preaching the
revealed Mind of
Christ. The result of
such worship or "giving heed" to Christ rather than beating our own nerve
endings to get
enrapturted (raped) is: In Spirit:
And be not
conformed to
this world: but ye
transformed by the renewing of your mind, In Truth: that ye may prove what is that good, and
acceptable, and perfect
will of God. Rom 12:2
The word is "Metamorphose."
YOU can do nothing to change a grub into a
butterfly. Now the
Lord is the
Spirit, and where the
Spirit
of the Lord is, there
is freedom. 2 Cor 3:17 But we all, with
open face beholding as
in a glass the glory of
the Lord, are changed
into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord. 2 Co.3:18 But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but, by manifestation of the
truth, commending ourselves to every mans
conscience in the sight of God. 2 Cor 4:2 We have also a more
sure word of
prophecy; whereunto ye
do well that ye take
heed, as unto a light
that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise
in your hearts:
2 Peter 1:19 It is
the
spirit that quickeneth;
the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit,
and they are life.
John 6:63 Searching what, or what manner
of time the Spirit of
Christ which was in
them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of
Christ, and the glory that should follow. 1 Pet 1:11 The Word is the "seed." We
plant the seed and water but the church as an institution cannot make
the transformation. The most ancient pagans believed that "According to the
system which Nimrod
was the grand instrument in introducing, men were led to believe
that a
real spiritual change
of heart was
unnecessary, and that so far as change was needful, they could be regenerated by mere external
means. Consistent with the old
"modern" religion, we believe that Fred is promoting a system of
"body worship" or worship directed at creating a "spectacle" to
impress all of the senses. However, this contradicts the message of
Jesus that Christians worship IN THE SPIRIT and this cannot happen
when the body is still dancing. When pagan Israelites PLAYED or
SPORTED at Mount Sinai they "rose up" in charismatic, musical
idolatry of the old Egyptian TRIAD. For that mortal sin God
conditionally sentenced them to captivity and death. It would
ultimately be the chosen kings who would LEAD them to
destruction. When the Jews PIPED Jesus
compared them to "MARKET PLACE CHILDREN" who piped trying to seduce
Jesus into the Dionysus singing or lamenting and dancing. This was
part of homosexuality worship as part of the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION when the Greeks controlled
Jerusalem. "Looking at the
subject in the light of the Bacchanalian orgies (Read Ephesus and Corinth), which, as the
reader has seen, commemorated the history of Nimrod, it is evident that he led mankind to
seek their chief good in sensual enjoyment, and showed them how they might
enjoy the pleasures of sin, without any fear of the wrath of a holy
God. (Voodoo, Rock, Boogie Woogie becomes Contemporary Christian
Music) "In his various
expeditions he was always accompanied by troops of women; and by music and song, and games (ritual drama) and revelries, and everything that could
please the natural
hearts, he commended
himself to the good graces of mankind." (Hislop, Alexander, The Two Babylons, p. 55, Loizeaux Brothers) But, Fred
repudiates that message from Paul (who just made it up according to
the Post-Modern, 21st century, latter day apostles): Fred
Peatross: All churches
want to
transform people. The
challenge is that the "transformational journey" of the Christendom
era that ended in the 20th
century Since we are not God, He gave us a way to
transform ourselves. The only part of
the transforming or regenerating journey humanity can participate in
is to plant the seed and water it. If you are planting the sentimental seed of a
sentimental poet then you are not planting the Divine seed and you
will reep corruption. If you are not watering people with the water
of the Word then you are allowing them to dry and die of hunger and
thirst for the Word. That was the result of the musical sin of Amos
5, 6 and Isaiah 5. The era after the Christendom era
is the Millenium: it is Christ-rejecting premillenialism. Are we in
the millenium? Did the Jubilee really usher in the kingdom on earth
as it is in heaven. If not, then we are in the same era of Christendom
one second after midnight as we were one second before midnight.
Based on the meaning of Post Modernism the
Bible was part of the Modern era and Christendom was part of
modernism. Therefore, it is not stretching the facts to
say that to most Post-Modern philosophers, CHRISTENDOM ALSO ENDED.
The DEATH OF GOD and a move into schizophrenis are tenets of the Post
Modern views of unoccupied philosophers who use the Shelly Sifter to
strain out everything from the Bible but a few bare facts.
Nothing, but a brain-warp, has happened between
the church of my youth and the church of today. Every self-centered generation sees itself as THE focal point of all
history: all that went before me were barbarians. However, God has
reserved "MY" clan to tell you that 2,000 of church history is AT AN
END and the "one true church" is emerging to let you express your
emotions in clapping hands. This generation is absolutely so certain that
God reserved the GRACE word for them to discover that they, as Paul
warned, see liberty as license. Fred is recommending a counter-Paul,
counter-Spiritual method of letting the "church" transform people by a
contrived "transformational journey" which we once sold you but now
we want to sell you the 21st century, latest model which obsoletes
what we told you last century. But old Paul is right there saying
that Fred and all of the preachers and programs and "works of human
hands" cannot transform the "spirit" which is approached only by Spirit word: Not by
works of
righteousness which we
have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of
regeneration, and renewing of the
(OUR) Holy Spirit; Titus 3:5 (Our spirit made holy) Clapping hands is the "works of
human hands." Waving hands over the head is not the lifting of the
PALMS UPWARD as a sign that one was giving heed to the Word of God.
If the arms swing loose while the performer manipulates every nerve
ending in the body, you are lifting unholy ARMs. Contrary to the Grace-Centered
species of human kind, the emerging church does not now give you
permission to "become as much like the world as possible to attract
the world." In the old, pre-Grace-Centered era the Bible "sifted through
philosophy and the writer's personal agenda" once said after we
"crucify the flesh and burn it up on the altar." Now, let's say it again
because some things don't stick to the emerging group who just
discovered grace ant the Towers of Babylon: And be not
conformed to this
world: but ye
transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect will of God. Ro.12:2 Does God still have a will?
Is that expressed in commands? How do we know in the Post-Modern,
Post-Biblical era? One of the absolute certainties
from the Towers of Babylon down to modern medical science is that you
cannot do anything with your rational mind (nous) while music and
body worship has totally shut it down. For which cause we
faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the
inward
man is renewed day by
day. 2 Co.4:16 And have put on the new man, which is renewed
in knowledge after the image of him that created him:
Col.3:10 Who also hath made us able
ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit:
for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. 2 Co.3:6
Therefore if any man be in
Christ, he is a new
creature: old things
are passed
away; behold, all
things are become new. 2 Co.5:17 And that ye put on the
new man, which after God is created in
righteousness and true
holiness.
Ep.4:24 When you go Post Modern, you
are forced to repudiated the Word of God. And when you do that you
may attempt ancient "body renewing" out of a sense of lostness.
However, Paul said that you will never be renewed again:
If they
shall fall away, to renew
them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son
of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. Heb.6:6 Hand waving or clapping is
"stirring up the fesh" to life again. This is more proof:
Jesus said that God does
not even look for us in the physical PLACE. Rather, the PLACE of
meeting God in the Most Holy Place (naos) is in our spirit or mind
which is the nous. If you attack the body you
are, according to Aldos Huxley reaching all of the way to Babel,
engaged in emotional masturbation. See Lynn Anderson: Dancing on the Rim.
Once you reject the Words of
Christ, there is no renewing and the eternal "patternism" is to
take as many with you as possible.
For it is
impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and
and the powers of the world to
come, Heb 6:5 If they shall fall
away, to renew them
again unto repentance;
seeing they crucify to
themselves the Son of
God afresh, and put him
to an open shame.
Heb.6:6 If we are "in Christ" and He
is he Head of the Boby and we fornicate, we force Jesus to
participate. If our "bodies" and "hands" are not dead in a
self-elevating way, then the death of Christ hasn't worked for
us. If you sell people hand
clapping as an emerging way to transform people's lives then you HAVE
fallen away from the Word (Post-Modern Confesses the guilt) and YOU
WILL NEVER GET UP AGAIN: THUS SAITH THE LORD. Contrary to Fred, the church as
spiritual kingdom which none of its enemies can see because it is
"within you," is warned against being contemporary with the
culture: Grace
and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge
of God, and of Jesus
our Lord, 2 Pet 1:2 According as his
divine power hath given
unto us all things that pertain unto life and
godliness,
through the
knowledge of him that
hath called us to glory and virtue: 2 Pet 1:3 Whereby are given
unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might
be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped
the corruption that is
in the world through lust. 2 Pe.1:4 Jesus has told us He will
meet us individually or by "twos or threes." However, when we make a
public, body worship performance out of our worship we are putting
outselves and the Spirit God on display publically: Paradeigmatizo (g3856) par-ad-igue-mat-id'-zo; from 3844 and 1165;
to show alongside (the
public), i.e. expose to
infamy;- make a public example, put to an open shame. The body worship claiming to
represent Christ is putting Him to an open shame because He would not
participate and had the fact recorded. Furthermore, you put Him to an
open shame by trying to use Him like a puppet speaking your
words. The only thing which has
happened is that preacher's programs like the pyramidal ministry
curse imposed by God upon the monarchy period to destroy them, didn't
work. Why didn't it work?
Because of the sermonizing and versifying of Bible and sentimental
thought. This caused spiritual blindness and in Amos and Isaiah,
music gives rise to "hungering and thirsting for the Word."
The same people who repudiate
the Word of Christ in Song and Sermon, feeling their "place" slipping
away. Therefore, they will always
promote 'holy theater' to fool the fools so that they can remain on
the payroll for which the Bible has no "office." The radical OBSOLETING the
preaching task (which was never part of a "worship" ritual is a valid
part of Post-Modernism. Preaching is an "outreach" effort but it has
been transformed in the 'modern' era as a denominational "dominant
pastor" role and evangelism has been replaced with a restored
pyramidal ministry system. As the scribe grew obsolete
when people learned to write, public cut N paste preaching became
more than obsolete when people learned to read their $2.00
Bible. Arnobius writing (A.D. 297-303) Ridicules instrumental music
in worship notes the ongoing "Patternism" of the
Pharisees: Nay, rather, to
speak out more truly, the augurs,
the dream
interpreters, the
soothsayers, the prophets, and the priestlings, ever vain, have devised these fables; for
they, fearing that their own arts be brought to nought, and that they may extort
but scanty
contributions from the devotees, now few and infrequent, whenever they have found you to
be willing
that their craft
should come into
disrepute, cry aloud,
the Gods are neglected, and and the time-honoured rites of
institutions once
sacred have sunk before
the superstitions of new
religions. And men--a senseless race--being unable,
from their inborn
blindness, to see even
that which is placed in open light, dare to assert in
their frenzy 35. But is it
only
poets whom you have
thought proper to allow to invent unseemly tales about the gods,
and to turn them shamefully into sport? (Hand
clapping is making sport or reveling) What do your
pantomimists, the actors,
that crowd of mimics
and adulterers? Do they not abuse your gods to make to themselves gain, and do not the others find enticing pleasures in the wrongs and insults offered to the gods?
At the public games, too, the
colleges of all the priests
and magistrates take their places, the chief Pontiffs, and the chief priests of the curiae;
the Quindecemviri take their places, crowned
with wreaths of laurel,
and the
flamines diales
(specialists of one
god) with their mitres;
the augurs
take their places, who disclose the divine mind and will 36. But this crime is not enough: the persons of the most sacred gods
are mixed up with farces
also, and scurrilous plays.
And that the idle
onlookers may be excited
to laughter and jollity, the deities are hit at in jocular quips, the spectators shout and rise up, the whole pit resounds with the clapping of hands and applause. Fred Peatross:
These feelings can be expressed in various
ways. Some Christians
clap their hands in
rhythm to the music;
although, those of us who are rhythmically challenged would rather
sit on them. Some raise their hands when they pray or worship. These
are but two of the ways we express our feelings toward God.
Let us make it clear to the
foggy: there is no connection between "music" and the worship of a
purely (holy) Spirit God in the entirety of God's dealing with
mankind. Blowing 120 trumpets in unison is not music. Music is for
the secular parties and includes dance and the end-time Babylonian
Harlot worship of Revelation 18 -- emerging in a church in your
neighborhood. The external "melody" with the clapping of
hands is to fortify the false teaching. The feelings induced by the
clapping and not the result is a drug high and not caused by a "holy"
spirit. True, there is music but it always says: "We
will not listen to the Word of God." Sure, there is the music of the
warriors
blowing trumpets, twacking harp strings and twanging bow strings.
However, consistent with all that we know in the modern age about
such noise (as God calls it) it is "lading the enemy down with the
spiritual anxiety" in order to make them turn into cowards. Outside
of warfare, those who wanted to get your carnal lust flowing by doing
the "works of human hands" in clapping or lifting, this was the
powerful weapon of the prostitute. Both the king/queen of Tyre and
Babylon were harp-playing prostitutes because music could and can
seduce you out of your entire bank account: it happens in may "temple
building programs." This artificial "worship" uses the manipulation
of the body and its senses to get into the Voodoo-derived rhythm and
this changes the emotions without letting your rational (spiritual)
mind know what is taking place. Preachers love music because a bit of
drug-injection through music can hide a multitude of sins and silly
exegesis in sermonizing which is just as unscriptural as "versifying"
our human sentimental feelings: using our personal experiences to set
people up with a non-Biblical authority: "Me." Fred Peatross: The raising of hands is certainly one of the
biblically sanctioned
postures of prayer, but
not the only one. There are numerous positions that the Bible
acknowledges as appropriate for prayer and worship. One can sit,
kneel, stand, lie prostrate, or raise hands receptively toward God
while realizing that none of these postures makes one more spiritual
or his worship more acceptable. These are simply human ways of inclining ourselves to the living God, a way of
bringing our physical posture in line with our spiritual desire. Such
actions can be helpful for us in our prayer lives and worship experiences. That is true, but raising my hands in prayer is
not for me
to display
my more spiritual feelings than others. Lifting up the
palms of the hands at about belt
level is the preamble to reading or
reciting the Word of God. If you are singing Sister Sally's
latest "inspiration" which is erotic because it drives you into
physical reaction, then you don't grasp the meaning of "lifting holy
hands." Contrary to the new "grace removed" movement,
Jesus said as Incarnate God that this repudiates grace. Making
worship TIME AND PLACE specific in non-Biblical acts repudiates
Christ who died to tear down the walls and allow each individual to
come boldly before the throne of Grace. That time and place is the
human mind or spirit. >
Prayer and opening the innocent palms toward God is symbolic or a
prelude to hearing directly from God through His inspired Word: >
And Ezra blessed the
Lord, the great God. And all the people answered, Amen, Amen, with
lifting up their
hands: and they
bowed their heads, and
worshipped the Lord with their faces to the ground. Neh 8:6 > > Also Jeshua, and Bani, and Sherebiah,
Jamin, Akkub, Shabbethai, Hodijah, Maaseiah, Kelita, Azariah,
Jozabad, Hanan, Pelaiah, and the Levites, caused the people to understand the
law: and the people
stood in their place. Neh 8:7 So they
read in the book in the
law of God distinctly,
and gave the
sense, and caused them
to understand the
reading. Neh 8:8
1. On a certain day a pearl did
I take up, my brethren; I saw in it mysteries pertaining to the
Kingdom; semblances and types of the Majesty;
it became a fountain, and I drank out of it mysteries of the Son.
I put it, my
brethren, upon the palm
of my hand, that I might examine it: I went to look at it on one side, and it proved
faces on all sides. I found out that the Son was incomprehensible, since He is wholly Light. 2. It was greater to me than the
ark, for I was astonied
thereat: I saw therein folds without shadow to them because it was a
daughter of light, types
vocal without
tongues,
utterances of mysteries
without lips, a
silent
harp that without voice
gave out melodies. The trumpet falters
and the thunder
mutters; be not thou daring then; leave things
hidden, take things
revealed. Thou hast
seen in the clear sky a second shower; the clefts of thine ears, as
from the clouds, they
are filled with interpretations. This was a restoration of the "synagoguing"
function in the land. If you read or sing your own silly, erotic
praise songs and perform what Aldos Huxley called "emotional
masturbation" with clapping or raising of hands you cannot appeal to
the "hand raising" without grasping that this is "lifting my hand to
the Oracle or Word of God." Please don't ever quote Paul about
raising HOLY hands without
grasping that "worship" to him meant
the same thing: To Timothy: "Give
attendance to the public
reading of the Word, to doctrine to
exhortation." >
I will therefore that
men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting. 1 Ti.
2:8 Let the woman learn
in silence
with all subjection. 1 Ti. 2: 11 But I suffer not a woman to
teach, nor to usurp
authority over the man, but to be in silence 1 Ti. 2: 12 The hand lifted high is a sign
of usurping authority over the masculine component of the
congregation. And it usurps authoriity from God. > > Let no man despise thy youth; but be thou an example of the believers, in
word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity. 1 Ti 4:12 Until I come,
devote yourself to the public reading of Scripture, to preaching (exhortation) and to
teaching
(doctrine).
1Ti.4:13 Meditate upon these things; give thyself wholly to
them; that thy
profiting may appear to all. 1 Tim 4:15 Meditate means to "revolve
in the mind." This has no "Christian" connection to singing
human compositions (the Pharisee pattern), clapping hands or waving
hands in the air as we are "lifted up" or carried beyond ourself in
charismatic madness. Paul does not define a
ritualistic Act of Worship where everyone lifts holy hands. Notice
that all texts have a context: > Whereunto I am ordained a
preacher
(herald), and an
apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and
lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in
faith and
verity. 1 Ti 2:7
Paul says: "Because I teach the
truth as a herald,
I would be unholy if I 'opened the message and changed it.' Therefore, the teachers of the flock are not
Ministers of Raising hands. Rather, they are "orthodox" and repeat what they have been taught. I will
therefore that men pray every where, holy hands, without wrath and doubting (debate). 1 Ti.
2:8 Lifting up
HOLY hands is from the Greek
word: Hosios (g3741) hos'-ee-os; of uncert. affin.;
prop. right (by
intrinsic or divine character; <
Do good to the humble,
but do not give to the
ungodly; hold back his bread, and do not give it to
him,
for you will receive twice as much evil for all the good which you do
to him. Ecclu 12:
5.
So no one will pity a man who associates with a sinner and
becomes involved in his sins. Ecclu 12: 14.
He will stay with you for a time, but if you falter, he will not stand by
you. Ecclu 12: 15.
and my
spirit made diligent search. Psalm 77:6
this meant INSANITY created by music and other DRUG-INDUCING
activity.
no longer works for 21st century people.
in the
temples there is now a very thin attendance. For ceremonies are exposed to derision,
what you in your sane mind do not blush to believe. (Arnobius Against the Heathen, Ante-Nicene Fathers,
VI, p. 418).
and the chaste maidens also, who cherish and guard the ever-burning
fire;